tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776587.post4862157457246227880..comments2023-11-03T04:00:24.785-04:00Comments on Kentucky School News and Commentary: Did a focus on teacher evaluations work? Richard Dayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14586435007687942849noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776587.post-47690751251229177272015-07-15T19:56:08.351-04:002015-07-15T19:56:08.351-04:00OK. If you insist…
Then, add to the list of thin...OK. If you insist…<br /><br />Then, add to the list of things that are obviously incomplete the Bluegrass Institute’s main policy initiatives:<br /><br />Passage of a Kentucky Right to (have rich folks prevent working folks from organizing to) Work Law - obviously incomplete.<br /><br />Elimination of Common Core - obviously incomplete.<br /><br />Moving as much money as possible out of public education and into private hands - obviously incomplete.<br /><br />Shall we add charter schools? …or do y’all just think of that as a subset of moving as much public money as you can into private hands?<br /><br />All I’m sayin’ is, it would be good if you would apply your evaluation standards fairly.<br /><br />Richard<br />Richard Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14586435007687942849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776587.post-12221927914910552252015-07-15T15:20:01.416-04:002015-07-15T15:20:01.416-04:00Richard,
Next Generation Science Standards, which...Richard,<br /><br />Next Generation Science Standards, which I assume you are referring to as “NextGen,” aren’t ready for any credit. <br /><br />Leaving out high school chemistry and physics – which NextGen Science did – is a cruel joke for any student who wants to go on to competitive colleges or STEM careers. Because these high end high school science courses are not covered by Kentucky’s new and incomplete science standards, there is no minimal quality control over those courses even if a school does choose to offer them. <br /><br />Even worse, some schools might not offer high end high school sciences at all. I’ve been told by several science department staff members at two of our four-year universities that somewhere around 30 school districts in Kentucky don’t even offer high school physics. With NextGen Science, there is no impetus for that to change. It is even possible that some schools will figure out they can also drop high school chemistry because that material is also outside of the state’s standards and cannot appear on state assessments.<br /><br />I doubt you would defend this situation if you really understood it.<br /><br />If by “C3” you refer to the obviously incomplete “C3 Framework for State Social Studies Standards,” which were used in a terribly improper way to shape a still-not-approved revision to Kentucky’s social studies standards, you need to know that even Kentucky’s 2011 History Teacher of the Year, Donnie Wilkerson, has spoken out forcefully against the proposal. This very bad proposal was floated to the KBE last October. Right after that proposed revision was made public, the Herald-Leader interviewed some educators from Fayette County who were also unhappy with the draft. <br /><br />I think there was a lot of other pushback because shortly thereafter the October 2014 proposed social studies standards disappeared. The revision has yet to reappear at a KBE meeting.<br /><br />By the way, the people who created the October 2014 proposed revision to Kentucky’s social studies standards didn’t even read Page 6 in the C3 Framework. C3 itself says states have to add content to the framework, an important point that eluded Kentucky’s education leadership after they disbanded the first group of teachers who were assembled to revise the standards. That first team was disbanded because its members shared co-team member Wilkerson’s opinion that the C3 Framework would not be an adequate basis for new standards.<br /><br />Anyway, please do more checking before talking again about C3 as it impacts Kentucky’s social studies area.Richard Inneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14892409111799693983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776587.post-41555101199371264062015-07-14T20:15:23.210-04:002015-07-14T20:15:23.210-04:00C'non Riicahrd. You keep changing your assesme...<br />C'non Riicahrd. You keep changing your assesment criteria to suit your biases. Predictable, but still disappointing.<br /><br />if "moving forward" is sufficient, then why didn't Holłiday get credit from you for Next Gen, C3, or revised standards?<br /><br />No straw men. just unrealized goals.Richard Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14586435007687942849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776587.post-10926404051610231372015-07-14T16:34:21.849-04:002015-07-14T16:34:21.849-04:00A couple of points:
I didn’t say Holliday has not...A couple of points:<br /><br />I didn’t say Holliday has not accomplished anything in SB-1. However, he has not completed a notable amount of what SB-1 requires, and he did part of it by adopting out-of-state created standards products for some of the courses (ELA, math) when SB-1 directed this to be done by state people. He only got part of the job done.<br /><br />I’ll let your other straw men go as most of those issues are still very much in play. I will point out that the Right-to-Work situation is actually moving forward with somewhere around a dozen counties that have enacted this program.Richard Inneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14892409111799693983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776587.post-17705980421128895562015-07-14T07:19:04.443-04:002015-07-14T07:19:04.443-04:00Ward, I think you're being a little hard on th...Ward, I think you're being a little hard on the Beaver.<br /><br />If you are suggesting that Holliday did not accomplish everything to perfection, OK. Sure. But that's a pretty tough evaluation. <br /><br />But if you are OK with it, and willing to accept the same for your organization, then perhaps it's fair.<br /><br />If we were to apply that same unyielding standard to the Bluegrass Institute's work, what would we find?<br /><br />Passage of a Kentucky Right to (have rich folks prevent working folks from organizing) to Work Law - Failed.<br /><br />Elimination of Common Core - Failed.<br /><br />Moving as much money as possible out of public education and into private hands - Failed.<br /><br />If that sounds right to you, then OK. At least its the same standard for both. But I find both appraisal a bit too harsh.<br /><br />RichardRichard Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14586435007687942849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776587.post-32979666825233786452015-07-13T17:40:50.436-04:002015-07-13T17:40:50.436-04:00While Holliday makes some good points, especially ...While Holliday makes some good points, especially about no silver bullets, I think it is incorrect to say he implemented SB-1. For example, SB-1 required all the standards to be revised with new assessments generated from them in place in the 2011-12 school term. We still don't have social studies standards and neither new science nor social studies assessments. <br /><br />Also, if you read SB-1, it says our standards would compare to top international countries. Whether Common Core and NextGen Science meet that is questionable. <br /><br />Furthermore, the tests created from the standards are explicitly supposed to serve the needs of all students including "advanced learners." Holliday and many others have admitted Common Core provides only minimum standards. Such standards cannot support the requirement for tests that serve those advanced kids.<br /><br />So, Holliday has not met SB-1 requirements.Richard Inneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14892409111799693983noreply@blogger.com